NVIDIA might ACTUALLY be EVIL... - WAN Show December 11, 2020

11 dec. 2020
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Timestamps (Courtesy of Andrew Small)
3:25 Titles
3:50 Merch: New 'Northern Lights' mouse mats, in over-compensating sizes
4:25 Nvidia & Hardware Unboxed issue
40:00 Electroboom collaboration, sponsored by a seasonally chilled Seasonic
45:40 Sponsors: Backblaze & Squarespace
47:40 Hardware Unboxed messages
49:40 Cyberpunk 2077 non review by Luke
1:01:35 Apple silicon leak
1:03:10 6900XT launch ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1:04:05 Apple AirPod Max bestest ever
1:07:45 HP Instant Ink dries up
1:10:59 Superchats

  • Update!! Nvidia has apparently backpedaled on their message to Hardware Unboxed. I am still waiting hear back from them about what exactly transpired - LS twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1337902062831484928?s=19

    Linus Tech TipsLinus Tech TipsAcum lună
    • @Tommy looking into my first build.. Was almost made up about buying a Nvidia card.. Now I can't help but think.. Hmm maybe I should look more into AMD 😂

      Daz590Daz590Acum 2 Zile
    • But they did make you and all other youtubers listen to their message ,I think this was the goal .I really hope you continue on critics the very same way.

      ahmed redaahmed redaAcum 7 Zile
    • The reason they said “multiple years,” is another dig at reviewers; saying they are “spoiled” because “they get free graphics cards every few months,” and thus they are “out of touch” with the average consumer who is paying for a card and keeping it for years. Which is just a load of shit

      NewGrow2019NewGrow2019Acum 12 Zile
    • Apptly Linus is bigger than nvidia, and that's a good thing

      Jennifer CruzJennifer CruzAcum 17 Zile
    • This does not change how I feel we should respond. We should still make nvidia tank and let them suffer for a while.

      jchoneandonlyjchoneandonlyAcum 21 o Zi
  • Dude had a few drinks before he sent that to Hardware Unboxed.

    Dunky GamerDunky GamerAcum 12 ore
  • Also, FU.K nVidia for not supporting wayland on linux.

    nenadcvelenenadcveleAcum o Zi
  • nvidia being like this, now apple having children labour... well great most tech places are run by sociopaths and psychopaths, I only wish I was wrong

    XENON3120XENON3120Acum o Zi
  • between the desk pad drop and the total gloves off dishing, this might be my favorite WAN show ever

    Caleb JCaleb JAcum o Zi
  • Never regretted doing business with companies so much as I have MSI and Nvidia this year. After all their bullshit this year im done with both. In dont give a shit if RT suddenly shoots out of my ass I will NEVER do business with either every again. Congrats Nvidia, you just made another Radeon/AMD customer.

    Solomon3145Solomon3145Acum 2 Zile
  • Hardware Unboxed..... subscribed..

  • Linus has "F#%K U MONEY" like Dave Chappelle 🤣😅😂 He went THEE F@#k OFF😂 YES💯

    M.R CarterM.R CarterAcum 2 Zile
  • I could really see the concern in your face Linus. I saw Jays response as well. Negative comments from a few reviewers is probably less backlash than what they are going to get for what they did. If they were confident in their product they would not have done that. AMD is too close for comfort obviously. Really upsetting.

  • Hey...its ABOOT....you know better.

    A CroftA CroftAcum 2 Zile
  • Great to see all the support being poured out, I missed this info and am just now finding out about it all. Happy note, Id be willing to pay more (maybe $10) or so even to be able to have games being platform agnostic

    Ian HendrieIan HendrieAcum 3 Zile
  • I know, im a fish in the pond when we think about how many subs you have. But for that explenation about click bait is... 1. Totally wrong. Its not the color of the package. Its a package without windows to look inside, and a label on it, stating something completly else as there is actually in it. 2. You lost a sub. And if for some reason, humanity grows back a spine, you will loose many more over the time. Have a good day, i am not against you and wish you much luck for your business.

    Kevin KevKevin KevAcum 3 Zile
  • This angle doesn’t surprise me. They’re just as bad with developers as well. There’s a reason the other Linus told NV to fuck themselves.

    Matt EMatt EAcum 4 Zile
  • I’m not buying any of your junk Linus, I’m going to buy the best gpu from amd, just to piss Nvidia off.... I’m done with them.

    Todd scholefieldTodd scholefieldAcum 5 Zile
  • Well this sounds familiar, Nvidia runs there stuff like The Democrat liberal party.........

    Todd scholefieldTodd scholefieldAcum 5 Zile
  • This is in regards to the Nvidia controversy. Where do I start...... In an effort to drum up subscribers and in an effort to show people that Nvidia doesn't just play nice with Nvidia shill's, Hardware Unboxed and Nvidia drummed up a controversy about Nvidia trying to strong arm your content. Their channel hadn't seen as much of a boom as other tech channels during the pandemic and Nvidia wanted their channel to be popular so they could use you review as one of their headlines for raytracing. To drum up a false controversy which plays on peoples emotions, which I now everyone else does, may be ingenious but extremely low. The proof is what happened after, their subscribers were stagnate compared to other ROonesr's and Nvidia was getting slammed in rasterization which HU made a big deal about and raytracing, which they mentioned once and would come in a follow up video about the 3080. Afterward the letter was leaked and more popular youtubers caught wind of it , they more then doubled their subscribers and Nvidia had the focus back on raytracing.

    Jason FesselJason FesselAcum 5 Zile
  • Y'all need to order more LTT Northern Lights Desk Pad. They're all 'out of stock'.

    Myszek512 __Myszek512 __Acum 5 Zile
  • Ive never seen linus get this heated and passionate. Really shows the gravity of the situation

    Ex ValorEx ValorAcum 5 Zile
  • I definitely will be weighting my future purchases toward AMD because of this letter.

    dhl1544dhl1544Acum 6 Zile
  • Nice. You should be a Lawyer.

    dhl1544dhl1544Acum 6 Zile
  • That is a hughe can of beer Luke.

    HCF MutinyHCF MutinyAcum 7 Zile
  • and today's sponsor of video is Nvidia....😂

    Rasim SetiaRasim SetiaAcum 7 Zile
  • Someone with morals and a spine. amazing

    Toazt42oToazt42oAcum 7 Zile
  • "RTX-1984" -Live Chat

    zBones762zBones762Acum 8 Zile
  • Anyone else's video getting stuck at 10 seconds?

    Comfortably NumbComfortably NumbAcum 9 Zile
  • Loved Linus and his I have FUCK YOU MONEY statement!

    Cristóbal CárdenasCristóbal CárdenasAcum 9 Zile
  • How about not typing when he's reading something, fucking obnoxious.

    Ryan Rich06Ryan Rich06Acum 10 Zile
  • Seriously thought you were AsmondGold just from the thumbnail. Total confusion!

    Jakob WichmannJakob WichmannAcum 10 Zile
  • sounds like Brian is a liberal....and what they are doing to America right now

    RegulatorRegulatorAcum 10 Zile
  • you guys are getting the vintage GeForce Experience.

    Daniel ChanDaniel ChanAcum 10 Zile
  • Still crazy how hard Linus went in on this lol.

    Electronics Store KidElectronics Store KidAcum 10 Zile
  • Dang. Chad-Linus f[BEEP]ed them hard. Like 👍🏼

    Robin ERobin EAcum 10 Zile
  • Huge overreaction. Represent their brand better or they won't give you free shit. simple.

    Tom PraytorTom PraytorAcum 11 Zile
  • Nvidia : We 'gamers'... also Nvidia : sells all the stock to miners.

    Arpit PuriaArpit PuriaAcum 11 Zile
  • Linus, seriously, NOW nVidia is under suspicion of being evil?! Reminder: nVidia's business strategy to beat 3Dfx and putting them out of business was: running to gaming studios discrediting the Voodoo technology, and opening up a datasheet spec war against 3Dfx about color depth and other, at that time, "nonsense" features, so that gaming reviews wrote more and more critical about 3Dfx ...despite most of the Riva TNT's and TNT 2's features not resulting in recognizably better picture quality over Voodoo 2 or Voodoo 3 but always lacking fps against 3Dfx. It took nVidia until the GeForce 2 to catch up to 3Dfx (at that point renamed to 3dfx) in terms of raw performance. nVidia was and is the fucking Empire from Star Wars!

    Robert ProbstRobert ProbstAcum 11 Zile
  • Respect dude

    TSM Esports RacingTSM Esports RacingAcum 11 Zile
  • its funny i noticed this gpu launch every reviewer except harware unboxed used raytracing for more than half of their benchmarks. why is anyone benchmarking control? who plays control? control is basically a nvidia sponsored benchmark. you are a shill linus and this nividia letter proves. lmao this satire but kind of not really.

    Oscar MeyerOscar MeyerAcum 12 Zile
  • no body cares about raytracing and if dlss is so close to native resoultion why doesnt nvidia just lock the technology on? clearly because it isnt that close to native resolution

    Oscar MeyerOscar MeyerAcum 12 Zile
  • so this letter got sent out after steves review of the 6900xt? maybe nvidias a little sour abt the 6900xt being within a few percent for 30% less money. personally im done with nvidia and intel. currently have a 2080ti and 9900k. had to do a preorder from cyber to get the parts but i got a 6900xt and 5900x on the way. intel and nvidia are going to need 10 15 percent leads over amd before i pay for their overpriced shit again.

    Oscar MeyerOscar MeyerAcum 12 Zile
  • Watching Linus listen to Luke read the email is like Eminem in 8 mile listening in a rap battle getting ready to destroy someone.

    Micah S.Micah S.Acum 12 Zile
  • you know.. another thing, what happened with NVIDIA isn't isolated.. A lot of people I follow have been getting similar letters from a multitude of vendors. Also, this divide and conquer crap sounds like a communist approach.

    David BarDavid BarAcum 13 Zile
  • for every sponsor Linus has on his show.. I'm going to blacklist them, and never install them.

    David BarDavid BarAcum 13 Zile
  • freedom of speech , they coming for yours next : )

    Master PasswordMaster PasswordAcum 14 Zile
  • i heard Nvidia was gay

    Raistlin MajereRaistlin MajereAcum 14 Zile
  • Dont companies understand that criticism makes the review seem actually genuine? If they blacklist people for reviewing honestly then i won't fully trust any review of that companies product.

    In4mal_bakerIn4mal_bakerAcum 14 Zile
  • Well said !!

    Dan ShockleyDan ShockleyAcum 15 Zile
  • Wow, get ‘em Linus! This amazing. They forgot to put the glasses on his face and a joint in his mouth at the end.

    Garala TunesGarala TunesAcum 15 Zile
  • Who is this guy mocking Nvidia like this? Every cap wearing dude gets an opinion this day? FML! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    Caz PenalCaz PenalAcum 15 Zile
  • This issue understandably matters a lot to content creators, but as a consumer, I couldn't care less about it, since I just do what consumers always do: we decide ahead of time how much we're willing to spend, then buy the best-performing card available in our price range at the time. The politics surrounding the relationship between media outlets and manufacturers puts me to sleep.

    yooser naimeyooser naimeAcum 16 Zile
  • Knit cap and a beard...hideous hipster uniform.

    yooser naimeyooser naimeAcum 16 Zile
  • @ 35:10 My DREAM HAS FINALLY COME TRUE... NVIDIA IS EVIL..... so true.... im one... so.. f*ck it AS LINUS TORVALD ONCE SAID.... NVIDIA....FU*K YOU !!! _I_

    Ryzen DivisionRyzen DivisionAcum 16 Zile
  • should i go with nvidia rtx 3080 or amd 6800xt in 2021 really dont know much about gpu please suggest me why and which

    alexender backlipsalexender backlipsAcum 16 Zile
  • NVidia has always been super evil. Just ask for Linus Torvalds opinion of NVidia. He if someone knows.

    ThemekanosThemekanosAcum 17 Zile
  • All you ppl think nvidia weren't paying unboxed??? Stop being entitled reviews.. go buy your own supplies

    ChrisChrisAcum 17 Zile
  • I love Linus, Huge respect, I 100% agree with everything that you said in this video, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that I appreciate your level of passion for this subject at hand, Plus the fact that you spoke out against Nvidia publicly, Wether you wanted to or not, You stood up for what was right & Spoke the truth, If they said that to one reviewer & Received no backlash, They would for sure continue to do so with other reviewers, I've been watching your videos for a while, I've enjoyed all of them, Especially the ROG build videos, You also taught me most if not all of the things I know now about computers & Tech in general, Im currently saving up to build my own dream pc setup, For myself & My girlfriend, Which I couldn't have ever imagined doing without your content, Love from the UK, You've earned a follower for life, Stay awesome & Keep uploading.

    Kane Alexander FarrellKane Alexander FarrellAcum 17 Zile
  • Beautifully done Linus and deservedly so.....Hello AMD..... as your sales climb quickly. Lol

    wayne Johns_Photographerwayne Johns_PhotographerAcum 17 Zile
  • I am Done with NVIDIA, they are now just an extension of Chinese Crypto currency slaves.

    KolargolKolargolAcum 18 Zile
    • hows this gotta do with China and Cryptominers

      Daniel FedukDaniel FedukAcum 12 Zile
  • "Proprietary software is an injustice." Richard Stallman Fuck Nvidia

    AnarchyAnarchyAcum 18 Zile
  • not a fanboy by any means but these types of slimy business tactics really spoils my milk. looks like im going to buy an AMD GPU.

    M DM DAcum 18 Zile
  • HU saying "Did a good job" I think really meant "Used more than just swear words to describe NVidia's behaviour".

    Ben IBen IAcum 18 Zile
  • 720p at 30 fps is the bare minimum in my opinion.

    TommyTommyAcum 18 Zile
  • uh oh angy

    Nicholas BeveridgeNicholas BeveridgeAcum 19 Zile
  • this has a lewis rossmann vibes all over it

    pedro mondragonpedro mondragonAcum 19 Zile
  • That PR dude needs to be fired immediately. This is literally the worst thing he could have done for a 'Ray Tracing' Advocate. The last thing a PR person should have done here is sending an email like this which he knew would go public. Now even if gamers like Ray Tracing - it won't matter because they have politicized the issue - and frankly - this is the most moronic PR move by Nvidia ever.

    Harris IqbalHarris IqbalAcum 19 Zile
  • Linus has a marketing and info voice, and now i have heard his lecture voice... thanks dad

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    Matthew BonoMatthew BonoAcum 19 Zile
  • If you are downsampling to offer proper performance your tech is not ready. Adaptive shading is way more important than dlss, specially with ultrawide monitors. They can keep their overpriced gpus.

    armatianarmatianAcum 20 Zile
  • Divide sound familiar? Trump v Biden? GOP v DNC? Fox v CNN? Team Red V Team Blue? All to common a theme...

    Greg SeguinGreg SeguinAcum 20 Zile
  • I will switch to AMD

    Andres SuarezAndres SuarezAcum 20 Zile
  • "Extremely upset" is 2 words...

    Kevin AugerolleKevin AugerolleAcum 20 Zile
  • 33:30 😎😎😎😎 if i gonna be evil I'll be smarter about it😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    Sarit SainiSarit SainiAcum 20 Zile
  • 27:20 😂😂😂😂😂😂 lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Sarit SainiSarit SainiAcum 20 Zile
  • Nvidia has let all of this power get to their heads. Thinking they can tell people what to say during a review. Talking points, I get. Feature points, I get. But to try and tell a reviewer what to say is a pitiful attempt at indoctrination on their part. They have no right to try and command a herd of Wilda Beasts that are consumers. Nvidia will get trampled under the charge.

    Nednarb 1986Nednarb 1986Acum 20 Zile
  • Too rambly and too much drama. I am lost watching this. I still miss what is really going one from watching this video.

    Phillip MulliganPhillip MulliganAcum 20 Zile
  • Idk if this was the cause. But i got prompted from a game i play to upgrade graphics driver and a week later i got green lines on whole screen, cept title strip on top of screen is still perfect. Card is mx130. Did their update screw my screen?

    fats manfats manAcum 20 Zile
  • I have been following LTT during 'Lockdown' in UK. I dont really game as such but Ive always built my own PCs.. Love the camaraderie and fun that comes across on this channel.. This is Linus absolutely 'Going To Town ' on NVidia..

    Paul LucePaul LuceAcum 21 o Zi
  • After watching how many ppl will buy RTX30XX still if you can.

    I'm blackeyesboyI'm blackeyesboyAcum 21 o Zi
  • the next gpu is ....................amd.......................... LOL

    kosmas tsopanogloukosmas tsopanoglouAcum 21 o Zi
  • Wow NVidia just sunk even lower in my eyes. Once I get a chance to build my own pc both Nvidia and Intel are off my list. First reason for that are prices ,second policy third one goes for nvidia only and it's related to their driver and from what i saw both mobile and regular pc drivers are stiff in terms of customization and what kind of options they offer. Laptop i currently use has amd's processor and mobile gpu and is way better than intel's and nvidia's. I also still have my old hp laptop that has intel's cpu and nvidia's mobile gpu and difference betwwen both is big. Amds support for socket lasts longer while intel changes sockets say every 2-3 years. I mean it's been long time since ryzen series showed up for the first time they supported am4 socket since and they still do.

    Nino HeđiNino HeđiAcum 21 o Zi
  • linus flexing on us

    OpgamewizOpgamewizAcum 21 o Zi
  • Thank god someone is finally saying what i have been saying about Reviewers, they are not advertisers, these two things are separate. Here in the US advertisement blatantly lie (in some cases) or Dangerously come close to lying (most cases). Reviewers are only as good as there honesty, depth, insight. There is integrity required to be a reviewer, they are not advertisers, the job of a reviewer is realistic application to reflect reality (this include the education of the product). It is not to be a puppet. In other words if you have a crap product DO NOT EXPECT PRAISE, if you have a weakness do not dare to dream that it will be swept under the carpet. "Go Buy A Mouse Pad ..." -Linus the timing of this just made me laugh. If Nivida or any other company is reading this, i should point out I would rather wait for a review than buy a piece of shit product.

    Richard HolidayRichard HolidayAcum 21 o Zi
  • Thanks for this Linus, this was well articulated and said, I'm glad that it sounds like there was a better conclusion and it was deescalated. Cheers

    Alex_TAlex_TAcum 21 o Zi
  • I'm not a fan of LTT reviews. But I have recently watched a few vids of Linus as a person (this one being the latest) and OMG I have to say, he grew miles in my eyes! Even though I might not like the style he makes his content but the fact that he is THE de facto big fish in computer parts reviews and seeing the humility how he deals with this situation is truly respectable. Linus, you are a great person. Power like yours should be used like this to make the world an even better and just place.

    Lajos TóthLajos TóthAcum 21 o Zi
  • Nvidia is just copying what the AAA game industry has been doing for a loooong time. It sucks, but there are too many unable to acknowledge flaws in these companies for them to stop doing it.

    T’Downit StriderT’Downit StriderAcum 21 o Zi
  • This sounds exactly like what Jim sterling has been complaining (rightly so, imho) about on the gaming side of things for ages now. Yeah these companies want control of what you say about their product. Personally, I dont care about raytracing because I do not play any title that us it. Should thay situation change my opinion will change accordingly. To each their own imho.

    Jeff LoperJeff LoperAcum 21 o Zi
  • Would Nvidia like to reimburse those "gamers" who spent money buying 2 cards for the purpose of sli that they pushed?

    Kevin-Scot-Kevin-Scot-Acum 21 o Zi
  • Stop being such fairies, the world is brutal & full of bullies, there is no moral corporate compass.

    TripleMadTripleMadAcum 21 o Zi
  • This just means I'm never legitimately buying an nvidia card.

    jchoneandonlyjchoneandonlyAcum 21 o Zi
  • This is very reminiscent of radios Payola Scandal in early 1960. That, "pay to play" scandal led to legislation that made this type of unethical transaction a criminal act. Maybe NVIDIA should read up on that bit of unethical behavior that caused Congress to come down hard on an entire industry. That only happened because that industry lacked the moral and ethical convictions to police itself.

    FlyMIfYouGotMFlyMIfYouGotMAcum 21 o Zi
  • Both Linus Torvalds and Linus Sebastian have one message in common, NVIDIA - * U roones.info/news/zYuH24Ktz8xrs4I/video

    dicetrashdicetrashAcum 21 o Zi
  • Pls we need more hardware production Companies to rile up Linus this is peak entertainment. xD

    HellerscheHellerscheAcum 21 o Zi
  • jfc

    Dylan SchofieldDylan SchofieldAcum 22 Zile
  • I'm an ATI fan anyway ;)

    Benny JamminBenny JamminAcum 22 Zile
  • So out of almost 1.66M views, almost 100K up-votes, but 1.7K down-votes?! gives you a picture of how stupid we really are. Seems like most people are just completely ignorant (especially taking into account people not interested in technical stuff, so many of whom wouldn't watch channels like this because they don't have the brains for it), and a very small percentage of us has a decent capacity to reason, while an even smaller (but surprisingly big) percentage of that in turn is most probably extremely retarded. To think I used to think 80 percent of people might be able to think for themselves. I must be smarter than I thought. I wish I wasn't sad about it. Don't tell me ROones users are not a good representative of the demographic since everyone's got an account.

    Tiky ReolTiky ReolAcum 22 Zile
  • Does any of Linus' merch do ray tracing?

    Trev0r98Trev0r98Acum 22 Zile
  • "NVIDIA might ACTUALLY be EVIL" *What do you think the word "Invidious" means?* Here: "calculated to create ill will or resentment or give offense; hateful" www.dictionary.com/browse/invidious?s=t

    Trev0r98Trev0r98Acum 22 Zile
  • In 70 years this will be what it looks like when you see a homeless guy on the corner yelling at trashcans.

    NobodyNobodyAcum 22 Zile
  • Lmfao boycott nvidia?? Please do it so I can buy a 3070 at retail price 🥺

    CoffeeCakeCoffeeCakeAcum 22 Zile
  • the biggest boi you can buy rn is the 900mm x 600mm

    Magnus BevaartMagnus BevaartAcum 22 Zile
  • NVIDIA is playing Hegalian Dialectic tactics

    Stathi NightingaleStathi NightingaleAcum 22 Zile