I Hope you HATE Buying Graphics Cards - WAN Show January 8, 2021

8 ian. 2021
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Timestamps (Courtesy of SirTobiGoodboy)
0:37 Recap of topics
2:00 Intro
2:13 Carmen Sandiego
4:46 GPUs getting more expensive
5:16 Import tariffs increasing prices 7.5% to 25%
6:20 Tariffs implemented in 2018 and exemptions expired
7:00 Shipping costs increasing
7:50 Canadian computer prices falling
11:12 General tariff and trade discussion
11:52 Foxconn US factory
15:40 Price Creep of GPUs
17:40 Now is the time to pick up gaming laptops
18:20 RTX 3080 MaxQ far slower than desktop
18:43 RTX 3000 power efficiency is not enough for laptops
19:45 GPU prices will never be competitive again due to the shortage debacle.
21:06 GTX 1080ti performance equivalent for RTX 3080 MaxQ
22:02 Performance parity gone between desktop and laptop
24:49 Detailed specifications
26:40 Potentially confusing marketing and nomenclature
29:19 GPU rating system proposal
39:20 Sponsor Spots
39:24 Kite
40:07 Squarespace
41:05 Vessi
42:27 LTTStore
47:05 WhatsApp Facebook data sharing
47:54 Video calling tangent
51:19 Self image and body modification tangent
1:11:11 WhatsApp Facebook data sharing
1:11:16 Data to be shared
1:12:34 Ikea created mockups for new consoles (unclear validity)
1:13:11 Trump permabanned on Twitter
1:13:45 Many other apps and websites banning Trump
1:15:47 Switch Pro leak/rumor
1:16:49 Superchats
1:18:17 Outro

  • Shut China down trump is right. Trump 2021

    Todd scholefieldTodd scholefieldAcum oră
  • Yeah you could get manufacturing here for pc components. It would not take years to build. It would take 2 to 4 years...........be pending how many people are on the job. You can’t sit there and feed us bullshit all you want bud. Yes I em Canadian, bro

    Todd scholefieldTodd scholefieldAcum oră
  • Ok Biden is going to raise taxes, and spend money like moron democrats communist. Biden can’t say one sentence with out fing it up........ trump did way more good then Biden ever did, Biden is a coke snorting socialist. And don’t any of you forget it.......

    Todd scholefieldTodd scholefieldAcum oră
  • well, now im glad i bought a 1660s 2 months before the release of the 3000 series...

    Sheep22Sheep22Acum oră
  • Trump had to give one last middle finger to the people on his way out the door.

    VincentVincentAcum 2 ore
  • guess i have to stick with this GTX 960 for another 5 years lol

    DoctaPhillDoctaPhillAcum 10 ore
  • Biden is friends with CCP. The Tariffs will be gone soon and prices will remain the same. Bet

    Michael MauroMichael MauroAcum 14 ore
  • Does that mean amd gpus are gonna easily beat nvidia gpus simply cause they are more power efficient?

    HulkieusHulkieusAcum 15 ore
  • So.. US is finally catching up on our EU prices. Welcome aboard. Feel free to experience what it is to be f*cked over.

    QuantumS1ngularityQuantumS1ngularityAcum 15 ore
  • 4:20 - 🎼That's the story, Wishbone 🎶

    Matt AdamsMatt AdamsAcum o Zi
  • Why would Trump's tariffs on China affect products mostly made in Taiwan, with parts from South Korea and Japan?

    tankninja1tankninja1Acum o Zi
  • Americans be like " Pc gaming is dead, its too expensive" after only their prices go up because they voted in a protectionist candidate.

    Bob PageBob PageAcum o Zi
  • My sister watched that animated show she like 7

    Ayden SchellevisAyden SchellevisAcum o Zi
  • thanks to the president terrorism? I see, you in favor of Biden that won the elections by cheating on American people! For that I am unsubscribing!

    Mauro brandaoMauro brandaoAcum o Zi
  • I remember explicitly Linus telling the story about his Nose completely differently. It went like this: "He went to his Mom and told her that he has a big nose. She said no, he didn't. Then Linus said 'Watch this' and turned his face sideways, which made his mom admit he has a big nose." Then, it was a conversation about that people don't really pay attention to that stuff unless pointed out. And now the story is completely different! It reminds me of Joker. "You know how I got this scars?..." Linus version: "You know I have that big nose?..." :D

    AisaaaxAisaaaxAcum o Zi
  • Love your show. I’m trying to build a PC at the moment but it’s stalled as I can’t get hold of a graphics card of any kind! Why can’t graphics card manufacturers can’t increase production to meet demand?

    Colin IrvineColin IrvineAcum 2 Zile
  • 1:07:25 Linus actually has a pretty normal nose lmao

    Tengku AliffTengku AliffAcum 2 Zile
  • Yes! Now the U.S can start building them at a competitive price! More jobs thank god.

    Blake RahamBlake RahamAcum 2 Zile
  • Welp Australian prices have sucked for the longest time so nothing changes for us

    Matthew EMatthew EAcum 2 Zile
  • F

    ET ShrimpinatorET ShrimpinatorAcum 2 Zile
  • If they don't want to pay tariffs tell Nvidia to build a American Plant in give American jobs boom no more tariffs for them

    John FariasJohn FariasAcum 2 Zile
  • google STADIA is awsome, cp-2077 etc, games a bit more $ when not onsale $79.99 etc, but considering no Hardware Cost, and no need to buy PS5 etc, its amazing. (review STADIA please, future episode) thanks

    BoboBearBoboBearAcum 2 Zile
  • Weird arguments here. Basically we should accept slave labor of Chinese people, because doing things ourselves might be hard at first? I mean here we are crying about a 800 graphics card when chinese workers make a few dollars a month.

    Jon GJon GAcum 2 Zile
    • True

      GamerBoy705GamerBoy705Acum o Zi
  • question, do i really need a 8gb graphics card to run wow, cities skylines? or can i get away with a 6gb one? thx.

    1976axerhand1976axerhandAcum 2 Zile
  • Hey bro, I hear you like not buying graphics cards so I brought you to 2021.

    georhodium Geogeorhodium GeoAcum 2 Zile
  • Even mid-range cards like a GeForce GTX 1660 super are selling for double MSRP if you can find one. This can't be due solely to the tariffs.

    Jeff RymanJeff RymanAcum 2 Zile
  • 29:30 Gamers Nexus Rating

    Tengku AliffTengku AliffAcum 2 Zile
  • This is sad , im not even into pc gaming anymore last 2 years I've been gaming on console . I hate scalpers .

    Krazy killar47Krazy killar47Acum 2 Zile
  • I just want to say the main reason why I watch Linus Tech tips videos is because you're not afraid to be critical of products. When I'm picking out computer parts I want to know what sucks about the things I'm looking at

    HuskerdoHuskerdoAcum 2 Zile
  • I'm so glad I was able to get a 3090 when it came out. I just saw the prices and it's almost 600 dollars higher

    SeadedSeadedAcum 2 Zile
  • Jack dorsey has huge investment in Signal

    1iLLnoize11iLLnoize1Acum 2 Zile
  • Glad I got a 5700xt January $469 at microcenter. Limit 1 per person, there were only 16 left when I got mine.

    MrBlueJK4MrBlueJK4Acum 2 Zile
  • The rising prices are the result of something called economics. The rising prices are not the fault of just the tariffs. It's a lot more complicated than just blaming it on an government administration. It actually has to happen for some very legitimate reasons if you want these products to actually be available for purchase. The lower margins are one of the main reasons that we can't get the products that we want right now. I don't like the rising prices, but it is necessary.

    David S.David S.Acum 2 Zile
  • So prices going higher is thks to Trump??? You must be joking. I would say market demand and lack of offer this december and prices that have been paid has made 2021 readjusting their price offers.

    Rafa ElRafa ElAcum 2 Zile
  • Linus’s tangent on video calling reminds me of the David foster wallace writings in infinite jest. I propose, to those opposed to video calling, just point the camera at a picture or at scenery that you see, talking normally as you would sitting next to someone.

    Maxwell FarnhamMaxwell FarnhamAcum 2 Zile
  • Getting plastic surgery is kinda pathetic. It shows a lack of love for yourself which is much less attractive than any wrinkle or imperfection. People are just obsessed with what everyone else thinks about there looks and points of view. First world to the fullest.

    Rob JayRob JayAcum 2 Zile
  • Your working on LWS linus web servers

    Paul BurkeyPaul BurkeyAcum 2 Zile
  • Went from fuck why did I buy this 2080ti to fuck I’m so glad I got this 2080 ti!

    Bulvine420Bulvine420Acum 2 Zile
  • "There's no way to win" Marx would like a word.

    Ailith TwinningAilith TwinningAcum 3 Zile
  • They gonna be crossing the boarder with graphics cards. It's going to be like prohibition all over again. I am just laughing thinking about that.

    matthew longinomatthew longinoAcum 3 Zile

    GHX_BeansGHX_BeansAcum 3 Zile
  • So don't institute the tariffs, give up on the companies having to create jobs in the US, and keep relying on poorer countries' sweatshops to make our shit so it's cheaper. Canada aye'

    Irish I CaredIrish I CaredAcum 3 Zile
  • Notebookcheck.net have really detailed analysis for mobile cards but also full systems

    N SaN SaAcum 3 Zile
  • It would be cool to see SKUs or stickers on laptops/GPUs/CPUs or whatever saying like FPS+Res where it certified fps rates on resolutions of *most* not *all* games. I.e. 30+1080, 60+1080, 120+1080

    Jordan DuntonJordan DuntonAcum 3 Zile
  • So I should drive over the border ....

    Ugly AngelUgly AngelAcum 3 Zile
  • Me in EU that couldn't care less

    JCSJCSAcum 3 Zile
  • funiest and most deepest episode ever xD

    Ukro TabUkro TabAcum 3 Zile
  • WAIT wait! 74 % slower, the MaxQ, but the NON maxq? How is a maxP for instance? You never paid any kind of attention to it... what should i say?!

    Mr. NobodyMr. NobodyAcum 3 Zile
  • Background on the price issue: Have you ever wondered how you can buy a $0.10 screw for $1 on Amazon and have it shipped to your door when shipping anything from China cost about $30? How can they make a profit? The reason is UPS/FedEX/USPS are subsided by the US tax dollar. It's our money not China's and lobbyists got these deals somehow. Canada does NOT do this. You can't get anything with cheep shipping in Canada. On the tariffs this is actually the only one thing I do like that Trump ever did. China, where as the people are great, their government is flat evil. No civil liberties, Concentration camps, Indentured prison labor, Human trafficking, Cultural genocide.. (and they prop up North Korea where it's even worse) the list goes on and on and I stand with the people of Hong Kong in trying to expose and fight their control. Trump is right on this aspect (like a stopped clock is right sometimes lol but still) We should NOT be sending our money to them. Sorry if you have to pay more.. it's worth it. Hopefully Biden can continue to pressure China for reform in a much less aggressive way.. but it needs to be done not for our benefit but for the benefit of the Chinese people living under the control of the CCP.

    k1e0xk1e0xAcum 3 Zile
  • Trump even meesed up Gaming 😂

    Michael M. DahlheimMichael M. DahlheimAcum 3 Zile
  • Who are you idiots going to blame for everything when trump leaves. Still Trump who am I kidding.

    Jason LeeJason LeeAcum 3 Zile
  • I just got a 3070 today. I'm underwhelmed! My 5700xt ain't that far different. Ray tracing isn't really worth it IMHO.

    Barry CooperBarry CooperAcum 3 Zile
  • I have to agree, I want the truth of a machine or product, good, bad or indifferent.

    Arlin WrightArlin WrightAcum 3 Zile
  • These tariffs were first and foremost put in place to punish China. Whether or not it would help create jobs is doubtful.

    Stephen WebbStephen WebbAcum 3 Zile
  • Freedom of the planet is at stake. Let's talk in 30 days. Take this to your canuk bank.

    Pony SoldierPony SoldierAcum 3 Zile
  • I've been subbed to this channel for 6 years (i think maybe a little more) but I never seen Linus with braces :S

    GaryGaryAcum 3 Zile
  • But.... but china pays the tariffs... right? Trumpets scare me. Sure the multiple bans/takedowns seems coordinated, but it's probably not. Twatter was the first to break the ice in banning extremism from the GOP/Trump and the others saw that as permission to follow suit.

    JcewazhereJcewazhereAcum 3 Zile
  • Nah just do 2 modes for testing... stock and full... and maybe somthing in the middle... easy testing.... so like 50% boost to all;fan, cpu. Gpu, ram etc. Then 100% of the system boost possable.

    Bryan With a YBryan With a YAcum 4 Zile
  • Just wait until next week and see what happens to the treasonous democrats, the national guard isn't there to arrest trump I can tell you that

    Chris sChris sAcum 4 Zile
  • "Lets make certified test using 1000 decimal points Pi number " "Telephone call from India : WE INVENTED PI ! WE DONT AGREE YOU USING IT "

    Jule RulezJule RulezAcum 4 Zile
  • Smartest talk from Linus since ever !

    Jule RulezJule RulezAcum 4 Zile
  • Linus not understanding

    ZhrinkZhrinkAcum 4 Zile
  • Guess I’ll quit gaming then if we can’t upgrade our hardware.

    gelul12gelul12Acum 4 Zile
  • remove the beards, you guys look like hobos

    REG BREG BAcum 4 Zile
  • I live in Germany. As long as our Government doesnt change their direction regarding their energy politics, high energy gaming is dead. We pay 0.33€ per kWh or $0.39. Thats just ridiculously high. So, even though I could buy the latest tech, I just couldnt afford the high energy prices.

    Jon SonJon SonAcum 4 Zile
  • Chance would be a fine thing.

    VRoomvroom BoomboomVRoomvroom BoomboomAcum 4 Zile
  • you can blame our lovely gooney at the time SCOTT WALKER for the FOXCONN deal. We voted him out a few years ago....What a shit show. I live in WI and now, the problem is....our new governor isn't much better.

    Shawn MShawn MAcum 4 Zile
  • Well with luck, a lot of the idiot decisions Trump pushed through will be reversed early on in President Biden's term. The trade war with China has hurt both sides and I'd expect they'd be wanting to negotiate with somebody with at least some idea of what they are doing in that regard. Meanwhile, I'm seriously considering building a new system using a 1000 series card as a placeholder until the dust settles on all this crap.

    CrimFerretCrimFerretAcum 4 Zile
  • The game show was the original Carmen Sandiego. The animated cartoon began afterwards in the mid 90s.

    vh9networkvh9networkAcum 4 Zile
  • My 1080ti is amazing. It's faster than my 2070 Super

    Blake OlingerBlake OlingerAcum 4 Zile
  • The trade war with China should end with Biden's inauguration. Biden loves dealing with China

    Blake OlingerBlake OlingerAcum 4 Zile
  • Between Linus talking about your true self and Carpool Critics on Disney's "Soul", LMG is getting really deep...

    Thomas BlackburnThomas BlackburnAcum 4 Zile
  • I don’t bother having people install teamviewer. Windows ships with an app called “Quick Assist” which does basically the same thing

    Andrew FeldmanAndrew FeldmanAcum 4 Zile
  • GPU market is so dumb... DIY your PC ehhh no sir not in 2021.

    Pier-Luc DanisPier-Luc DanisAcum 4 Zile
  • it's still so crazy to me that liberals are the anti-free speech people now

    Frosty.Frosty.Acum 4 Zile
  • 37:55 you could automate literally every step, including un-boxing and re-shelving (if ur cool with spending a few million on equipment and dev lol) hardest part would probably be *finding* the guys good enough with fabrication and machine arms.. there seem to be like 2 people that do any of the real stuff, everyone else just does basic pick-n-place crap :(

    Frosty.Frosty.Acum 4 Zile
  • i played carmen san diego and i am 22 lol

    Thomas Gonzalez leyroThomas Gonzalez leyroAcum 4 Zile
  • Tell me about it - I don't even need a gaming GPU, just something cheap, decent, and presentable. Friend of mine who works for a Microcenter has been on the look out for a deal for me. Just yesterday received a shipment, took a pic of a GTX 1660 Super SC Ultra for just under $200, directly off the delivery truck. Just as I was about to send him money for it, he told me it already sold. In a matter of 20 minutes, between the truck and the sale.

    Jerry DodgeJerry DodgeAcum 4 Zile
  • Had a horrible braces switch. My.folks.saved money but was awful but my sister got the better experience. Guess first kid is the trial run.

    Grey FoxGrey FoxAcum 4 Zile
  • Teeth are a huge part of ur health. Every one should do ur teeth of you can.

    Grey FoxGrey FoxAcum 4 Zile
  • This is more like a... The GLAM Show lol

    Sadmin DurmishiSadmin DurmishiAcum 4 Zile
  • Uninstalled Facebook and messenger 😁

    serge starserge starAcum 4 Zile
  • You should talk about the elephant and what Big Tech censoring and deplatforming other platforms even, means to the Tech world.

    JanzerJanzerAcum 4 Zile
    • you don't have to focus on the politics, but perhaps talk about alt tech

      JanzerJanzerAcum 4 Zile
  • Next time, please turn up the volume!

    Torkild JohansenTorkild JohansenAcum 4 Zile
  • How do you certify a games performance level if the game is constantly changing. If you certify that the game runs at 60fps high at version 1.5, cool. But now the game isn't at version 1.5 and it forces you to update to 1.6, with a brand new map that is very demanding. Very hard to certify any game cuz it's always evolving.

    FullThrottle099FullThrottle099Acum 4 Zile
  • Video calls are good for long distance relationships

    just riggzjust riggzAcum 4 Zile
  • "I don't understand why people need to video call" while doing a Vlog.

    Joel FaulknerJoel FaulknerAcum 4 Zile
    • @Dixin C. Yep. Just like a video call is a video call.

      Joel FaulknerJoel FaulknerAcum o Zi
    • Maybe because a Vlog is a video log? Just a guess.

      Dixin C.Dixin C.Acum o Zi
  • I love how much luke enjoys Linus roasting himself.

    Isaaru NaromIsaaru NaromAcum 4 Zile
  • Linus: Corners have been cut = Slave labor

    Joel FaulknerJoel FaulknerAcum 4 Zile
  • I'm so disappointed you didn't sample the Carmen San Diego game theme song.... seriously... You should feel shame. roones.info/news/yISSzY-epadxyH4/video

    RhaeRhaeAcum 4 Zile
  • SUs- Steve units for gpus

    W PW PAcum 4 Zile
  • So nvidia is selling a doghist bin of the 3080 as max q for laptops. Classic

    HighbornHighbornAcum 4 Zile
  • Welcome to the rest of the world prices

    HighbornHighbornAcum 4 Zile
  • Stop making videos about shit we cannot buy.

    Patrick AlexanderPatrick AlexanderAcum 4 Zile
  • Tariffs are something we haven't had to worry about for awhile but are fairly common historically. To be honest we've been spoiled for a long time. Job production will be the long term goal. It's not going to happen overnight. There's also the comfort of knowing the country who enslaves a portion of their country for manufacturing is being affected.

    AdamAdamAcum 4 Zile
  • Re: Video calling. I see my parents in person maybe once per year as we live 2 countries apart. Also they want to see their grandchild as often as possible as shes growing up. We video call sometimes as I walk down a street (but only when my daughter is with me, Id feel ashamned doing it alone for some reason...). In any case, maybe others have similar reasons.

    z3lurmorgz3lurmorgAcum 5 Zile
  • At this point I'm just gonna ditch PC building and buy a gravel bike :D there's stock of every model imaginable. Good bye.

    VestuVestuAcum 5 Zile
  • If my GPU would give up (i'm 5700xt owner) I would be absolutely screwed... My retailer would just give me money back and at that's basically same thing as showing me a middle finger.

    Underheaven UnderheavenUnderheaven UnderheavenAcum 5 Zile
  • Opposite of mining project... so basically using millions of GPUs to unmine every single Bitcoin. Go, Linus!

    jimvonmoonjimvonmoonAcum 5 Zile
  • I watched until the idiots started downing Trump for standing up for American jobs.

    jimmy akersjimmy akersAcum 5 Zile